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<!--------------------------------------------------------------> <table width="100%"><tr><td align="left" valign="middle"></td><td align=right valign="middle"></td></tr></table><BR><pre>jj spravne na SAPI mam programek kterej prevadi obosmerne HEX - BIN a BIN - HEX takze po RS232 posilam HEX terminal pripojis PRIMO NA PORT tj. BEZ jakehokoli protokolu pokut jde o prevod na srena PeCky tak to zvlada kazdej programator tj. nactes jako HEX a ulozis jako BIN a naopak ci existuj ptimo programky ktere to umi prevest tak jak prenasis textaky tak preneses ten INTELHEX protoze je to vpoctate text abi se stim dalo neco delat tak das zachitavani textu do souboru a pak je viseparujes do souboru kteri se da spracovat tj,. pokut si tetech intelhexu posilal vic nebo pred kazdim das zvlast zachitit do konkretniho souboru uznavam ze to neni nejpohodlnejsi ale je to prenositelne a pouzitelne vpoctate na cemkoli viz : D:\'My Dropbox\'SAPI_DOKU\'SW_SAPI_Petr\'RUTINY.ASM <span class="replyquote1">> > Takze na Sapi prevedes COM (BIN) na HEX a posles ho ven jako soubor > Hex a na druhy strane ho zachytis Hyperterminalem jako textovej > soubor? Jako datovej to nejde, tam musi byt nektery protokol X, Y > nebo Z modem. A ty v sobe Sapi nema. Mozna kdybych vedel jak maji > protokoly vypadat, tak bych zvladnul naprogramovat nejakej > jednoucelovej obousmernej modemovej protokol pro Sapi. > Nojo, ale co v PC s tim hexem? Jak to zase v PC prevyst na COM nebo > BIN? > Jeste ze me chodej oboustrane aspon ty textaky.... > Ja vsechny zdrojaky v assembleru pisu v obycejnym Poznamkovym bloku > a pak to prenesu Hyperterminalem do Sapi se spustenym upravenym > PIPem a v Sapi to prelozim a odladim. Ty editory u osmibitu jsou > naprosto strasny.... > Jirka > > ----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA ----- > Od: "EC1045 (sapi@pandora.cz)" <ifbrk@[doména skryta]> > Komu: "Konference 'SAPI-1 a československé mikropočítače'" > <sapi@pandora.cz> > Předmět: Re: zalohovanej Ramdisk > Datum: 7.9.2011 - 20:44:16 > </span><span class="replyquote2">> > > > Prenyst spolehlive binarni data do programatoru na > > PC </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > stale neumim... </span><span class="replyquote2">> > > > je tu format ktery to zvladne bez straty kiticky a > > to je starsi nez 8080 > > > > kolikrat se mam opakovat ze nejspolehlinejsi > > nejuniverzalnejsi a snad nejdele pouzivany format > > na prenos binarnich dat je: > > > > INTELHEX > > > > pouzivaji se znaky ":" 0-9 A-F "CR" a "LF" takze > > se da bezproblemu poslat i pomoci 7bit kodovani a > > ze znaku s nisim cislem nez 32 (mezera) se > > pouzivaji jen "navrat vozu" a "novy radek" tj. > > data jsou ulezena v HEX formatu > > soucasti kodu je delka radku, adresa, vlastni data > > a kontrolni soucet (krom dvojtecky ktera udava > > zacatek kodu) > > vzhledem k datu vzniku umi jen 64KB jak nazev > > napovida tak bilo vivinuto firmou INTEL za ucelem > > prenosu dat tj. obsahu mameti xROM (INTEL se ve > > svich pocatcich vihradne venoval virobe pameti) > > napr TESLA pouzivala tentiz format za sejnim > > ucelem jako INTEL tj. k zadavani obsahu pameti > > xROM > > > > SAPI v sestave ZPS-2 s Monitorem/MIKOSem V4 i V5 > > tento format tez umi > > > > pokut budes chtit poradit jak na to tak jsem se > > stim uz zabival a bezne to pouzivam na prenos dat > > mezi SAPI a PeCkou a to bez nejakich specialnich > > programku ci sileneho nastavivani cehokoli tj. na > > strane PeCky mi staci TRMINAL ktery zvladne > > zachitavat do souboru coz jsou vpoctate vsechny > > > > > > aneb vipadato napr takto: > > (vipis MIKROBASICU 4KB) > > :18000000C319002A244023C9C3EE472A01402BC9C3F747CD7107C34DE5 > > :180018000031B140CD5C0CCDF40CAF32234032004011D000CD2B0821F4 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:180FA8000FFE0DCA4F0FFE2ECA100FFE22CADD0FE5210000CD850E4757 > > :180FC0007D121378E1FE20CA980FFE0DC2AD0EEBC3520F1BEBC34F0FD1 > > :180FD800EB23C34F0FCD6A0DCD0740FE22CAF30F4F121AB9C2AD0E13CA > > :100FF000C3DD0FCD6A0DFE20CA980FEBC34F0F243F > > :00000001FF > > </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > > > > Tak badam nad tim ROMdiskem, jak ho udelat. > > > -Eprom by bylo nejjednodussi reseni, deska > > > ROM-1A by sla pouzit ale bylo by </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > slozity dostat data v podobe obrazu diskety do </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > Epromek. Kor kdyz programator </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > na Sapi umi jen 27128. Prenyst spolehlive </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > binarni data do programatoru na PC </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > stale neumim... Asi by se musel napsat nejakej </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > soft, kterej z obsahu RMD-1/1 </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > MB (kde by bylo pripravino co ma byt na </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > Romdisku) by hrnul do bufferu </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > jednotlivy sektory a ty pak programoval do </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > Epromek. Jenze k tomu by musel </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > byt taky HW ktery by mel 8 datovejch a 18 </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > adresovejch bitu a 2-3 ridici </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > signaly pro rizeni CE napeti a pod. To by asi </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > slo pomoci obou portu na DPP-1 </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > ale muselo by se udelat nejaky zapojeni patice </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > pro Eprom a rizeni pristupu a </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > programovaciho napeti. To je strasne prace... </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > -SRam by bylo slusny reseni, dalo by se do ni > > > nahrat jako do Ramdisku a pak </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > zablokovat zapis. Jenze zase baterka, Max na </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > hlidani napajeni baterky a pod. </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > Ale zase by k tomu sel snadno pridat realnej </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > cas. Nasratovat na bastldesku </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > by asi nebyl problem. </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > -EEprom koukal jsem do katalogu a pozadovany > > > 512Kx8 se snad ani nevyrabi a </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > navic jsou velky EEprom dost drahy. A ani </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > vlastne nevim, co by to </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > potrebovalo kolem sebe na zapsani do nich. </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > Nehlede na problem s E5 v </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > adresari popsany nize u Flash. </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > -Flash Nasel jsem zdroj na K6X4008T1F za par > > > kacek kus. Nikdy jsem ale s </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > Flash nedelal a tak nevim, jak se do toho </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > zapisuje. V katalogu se mi to jevi </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > jako klasicky pristup do Ram. Jen s tim, ze se </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > musi pred zapisem vymazat </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > cela a nebo aspon blok 64 KB. Tak ted ale nevim, </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > zda by to makalo pod CPM, </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > tam je ocekavano ze v adresari prazdnyho disku </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > bude vzorek E5. Takze to asi </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > nepujde. Pokud neni RMD-1 na zacatku v adresari </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > popsan E5, tak blbne, bud </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > hlasi ze je plny, RO a nebo neumozni zapsat po </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > celym disku. Slysel jsem, ze </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > nektry Flash se daji prepisovat, nemusi se pred </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > zapisem vymazat ale neni mi </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > jasny, jak se to u konkretniho typu pozna. Zase </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > by u toho nemohl byt realny </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > cas, ten potrebuje baterku. </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > Takze to zase asi spadne do baterkove zalohovany > > > Ramky. </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > Jsou moje uvahy spravny? Nemohl by se nekdo </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > vyjadrit? </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > > Jirka </span><span class="replyquote3">> > > > > > --------------------- > > > sapi@pandora.cz > > > Konference o SAPI-1 > > > ------------------------ </span><span class="replyquote2">> > sapi@pandora.cz > > Konference o SAPI-1 > > --- > > </span><span class="replyquote1">> > > -- > Užitečné rady a tipy pro studenty i jejich rodiče a blízké čtěte ve > speciálu portálu VOLNÝ.cz Škola volá. > http://web.volny.cz/data/click.php?id=1267 > > --------------------- > sapi@pandora.cz > Konference o SAPI-1 > --- </span> </pre>