Konference: SAPI-1 a československé mikropočítače

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jj spravne na SAPI mam programek kterej prevadi obosmerne HEX - BIN a BIN -
HEX takze po RS232 posilam HEX
terminal pripojis PRIMO NA PORT tj. BEZ jakehokoli protokolu
pokut jde o prevod na srena PeCky tak to zvlada kazdej programator tj.
nactes jako HEX a ulozis jako BIN a naopak ci existuj ptimo programky ktere
to umi prevest
tak jak prenasis textaky tak preneses ten INTELHEX protoze je to vpoctate
text abi se stim dalo neco delat tak das zachitavani textu do souboru a pak
je viseparujes do souboru kteri se da spracovat tj,. pokut si tetech
intelhexu posilal vic nebo pred kazdim das zvlast zachitit do konkretniho
souboru
uznavam ze to neni nejpohodlnejsi ale je to prenositelne a pouzitelne
vpoctate na cemkoli

viz : D:\'My Dropbox\'SAPI_DOKU\'SW_SAPI_Petr\'RUTINY.ASM



>
> Takze na Sapi prevedes COM (BIN) na HEX a posles ho ven jako soubor
> Hex a na druhy strane ho zachytis Hyperterminalem jako textovej
> soubor? Jako datovej to nejde, tam musi byt nektery protokol X, Y
> nebo Z modem. A ty v sobe Sapi nema. Mozna kdybych vedel jak maji
> protokoly vypadat, tak bych zvladnul naprogramovat nejakej
> jednoucelovej obousmernej modemovej protokol pro Sapi.
> Nojo, ale co v PC s tim hexem? Jak to zase v PC prevyst na COM nebo
> BIN?
> Jeste ze me chodej oboustrane aspon ty textaky....
> Ja vsechny zdrojaky v assembleru pisu v obycejnym Poznamkovym bloku
> a pak to prenesu Hyperterminalem do Sapi se spustenym upravenym
> PIPem a v Sapi to prelozim a odladim. Ty editory u osmibitu jsou
> naprosto strasny....
> Jirka
>
> ----- PŮVODNÍ ZPRÁVA -----
> Od: "EC1045 (sapi tu byla ta zakroucena vec pandora.cz)" <ifbrk tu byla ta zakroucena vec seznam.cz>
> Komu: "Konference 'SAPI-1 a československé mikropočítače'"
> <sapi tu byla ta zakroucena vec pandora.cz>
> Předmět: Re: zalohovanej Ramdisk
> Datum: 7.9.2011 - 20:44:16
>
> >
> > Prenyst spolehlive binarni data do programatoru na
> > PC
> > > stale neumim...
> >
> > je tu format ktery to zvladne bez straty kiticky a
> > to je starsi nez 8080
> >
> > kolikrat se mam opakovat ze nejspolehlinejsi
> > nejuniverzalnejsi a snad nejdele pouzivany format
> > na prenos binarnich dat je:
> >
> > INTELHEX
> >
> > pouzivaji se znaky ":" 0-9 A-F "CR" a "LF" takze
> > se da bezproblemu poslat i pomoci 7bit kodovani a
> > ze znaku s nisim cislem nez 32 (mezera) se
> > pouzivaji jen "navrat vozu" a "novy radek" tj.
> > data jsou ulezena v HEX formatu
> > soucasti kodu je delka radku, adresa, vlastni data
> > a kontrolni soucet (krom dvojtecky ktera udava
> > zacatek kodu)
> > vzhledem k datu vzniku umi jen 64KB jak nazev
> > napovida tak bilo vivinuto firmou INTEL za ucelem
> > prenosu dat tj. obsahu mameti xROM (INTEL se ve
> > svich pocatcich vihradne venoval virobe pameti)
> > napr TESLA pouzivala tentiz format za sejnim
> > ucelem jako INTEL tj. k zadavani obsahu pameti
> > xROM
> >
> > SAPI v sestave ZPS-2 s Monitorem/MIKOSem V4 i V5
> > tento format tez umi
> >
> > pokut budes chtit poradit jak na to tak jsem se
> > stim uz zabival a bezne to pouzivam na prenos dat
> > mezi SAPI a PeCkou a to bez nejakich specialnich
> > programku ci sileneho nastavivani cehokoli tj. na
> > strane PeCky mi staci TRMINAL ktery zvladne
> > zachitavat do souboru coz jsou vpoctate vsechny
> >
> >
> > aneb vipadato napr takto:
> > (vipis MIKROBASICU 4KB)
> > :18000000C319002A244023C9C3EE472A01402BC9C3F747CD7107C34DE5
> > :180018000031B140CD5C0CCDF40CAF32234032004011D000CD2B0821F4
> > :180030000300221D4021EF4022244021AD4722EB4021ED4722ED402139
> > :18004800AB4722E940CD060931B14011FB02973223402F320A40CD2B88
> > :1800600008216800220B40210000221340220D40063ECDB307D5CD5CBC
> > :1800780009CDC502CD6E027CB5C1CA29091B7C121B7D12C5D57993F5BA
> > :18009000CD0108D5C2A700D5CD1F08C12A2440CDA7086069222440C1A0
> > :1800A8002A2440F1E5FE03CA4D00856F3E008C67CD6409CD6802D2ACB0
> > :1800C00007222440D1CDB208D1E1CDA708C370004D494B524F204241BD
> > :1800D800534943004C4953540059034C4C49535400560352554E0016AD
> > :1800F000034E4557000D03524557494E4400280C4D4F4E49544F5200D6
> > :180108000D0F52414D0076094C4F414400230B5341564500B30B4E4596
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> >
> > >
> > > Tak badam nad tim ROMdiskem, jak ho udelat.
> > > -Eprom by bylo nejjednodussi reseni, deska
> > > ROM-1A by sla pouzit ale bylo by
> > > > slozity dostat data v podobe obrazu diskety do
> > > Epromek. Kor kdyz programator
> > > > na Sapi umi jen 27128. Prenyst spolehlive
> > > binarni data do programatoru na PC
> > > > stale neumim... Asi by se musel napsat nejakej
> > > soft, kterej z obsahu RMD-1/1
> > > > MB (kde by bylo pripravino co ma byt na
> > > Romdisku) by hrnul do bufferu
> > > > jednotlivy sektory a ty pak programoval do
> > > Epromek. Jenze k tomu by musel
> > > > byt taky HW ktery by mel 8 datovejch a 18
> > > adresovejch bitu a 2-3 ridici
> > > > signaly pro rizeni CE napeti a pod. To by asi
> > > slo pomoci obou portu na DPP-1
> > > > ale muselo by se udelat nejaky zapojeni patice
> > > pro Eprom a rizeni pristupu a
> > > > programovaciho napeti. To je strasne prace...
> > > -SRam by bylo slusny reseni, dalo by se do ni
> > > nahrat jako do Ramdisku a pak
> > > > zablokovat zapis. Jenze zase baterka, Max na
> > > hlidani napajeni baterky a pod.
> > > > Ale zase by k tomu sel snadno pridat realnej
> > > cas. Nasratovat na bastldesku
> > > > by asi nebyl problem.
> > > -EEprom koukal jsem do katalogu a pozadovany
> > > 512Kx8 se snad ani nevyrabi a
> > > > navic jsou velky EEprom dost drahy. A ani
> > > vlastne nevim, co by to
> > > > potrebovalo kolem sebe na zapsani do nich.
> > > Nehlede na problem s E5 v
> > > > adresari popsany nize u Flash.
> > > -Flash Nasel jsem zdroj na K6X4008T1F za par
> > > kacek kus. Nikdy jsem ale s
> > > > Flash nedelal a tak nevim, jak se do toho
> > > zapisuje. V katalogu se mi to jevi
> > > > jako klasicky pristup do Ram. Jen s tim, ze se
> > > musi pred zapisem vymazat
> > > > cela a nebo aspon blok 64 KB. Tak ted ale nevim,
> > > zda by to makalo pod CPM,
> > > > tam je ocekavano ze v adresari prazdnyho disku
> > > bude vzorek E5. Takze to asi
> > > > nepujde. Pokud neni RMD-1 na zacatku v adresari
> > > popsan E5, tak blbne, bud
> > > > hlasi ze je plny, RO a nebo neumozni zapsat po
> > > celym disku. Slysel jsem, ze
> > > > nektry Flash se daji prepisovat, nemusi se pred
> > > zapisem vymazat ale neni mi
> > > > jasny, jak se to u konkretniho typu pozna. Zase
> > > by u toho nemohl byt realny
> > > > cas, ten potrebuje baterku.
> > > Takze to zase asi spadne do baterkove zalohovany
> > > Ramky.
> > > > Jsou moje uvahy spravny? Nemohl by se nekdo
> > > vyjadrit?
> > > > Jirka
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